They are the owners. Jane Anderson is one who likes to perpetuate Celiac myths. Did we read the same post? Bob's Red Mill Garbanzo Flour is freshly milled and 100% stone ground. Another small company gobbled up by a conglomerate and, in all likelihood, no longer producing trustworthy goods. What if the ppm is raised from 20 to 30? Because if they don’t, you have quite a problem on your hand, don’t you? I have a coeliac teen and your stuff is perfect for her, a balance of info and fun. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. Can you be 100% sure that it is what is claimed. I have never been glutened by them but I am also not in Canada. I suspect in this case it was just a random test to which all food vendors are subject. I didn’t even correlate eating and stroke. Free shipping on orders over $50! You’re not exactly making kale chips with that flour. Over the years concerned consumers have questioned Bob’s Red Mill via their company blog on the presence of glyphosate in the oats being sold. I’ve had the same issues and just learning gluten is the culprit. New Celiac Problems. Together you have all educated, made me mad, made me cry and most importantly, made me feel like I'm not alone in all this. Advice? GD, I don’t think you are spreading any unwarranted fear. Additionally, if you have Celiac, you probably have other intestinal issues too. IHOP Now has Gluten Fr…………iendly Pancakes. Thank you for your blog. If ONE of your products turns out to contain too much gluten, how can we be sure that MANY don’t? *shrug* I don’t know and I’m not really taking sides even with these latest revelations. Reading Gluten Dude’s blog has helped me feel “normal” – it isn’t a happy disease. My husband has Celiac disease and your blog is a life saver. You make me smile, you make me cry, and you make me mad. I’m not sure quite how to fit this into the big picture. I agree…gluten is not bad for everybody. Thank you Gluten Dude! Thank you Dude!!!! Bob's Red Mill. I feel for you, as it’s something that would really complicate life! So the Canadian Govt is lying and picking on poor BRM.. Did we read that correctly? (Personally, I’ve never seen another brand of arrowroot besides BRM, but I haven’t searched high and low for one.) I am sure they are Absent Malice. We all know there is worse than this. Details Create unparalleled, naturally delicious baked goods with this Bob's Red Mill unbleached all-purpose flour! Ditto. And saying that you “voluntarily” withdrew all packages is honestly nothing to celebrate. It’s cheaper though to buy the individual flours and make my own blend, than buy the pre-blend from them. I get it…that’s all that you need to do by law (well…as of next year.) Directions How to use this product. I am so glad I found your website; it has me feel like I'm not alone or 'making thing's up'. A lot of folks get stomachaches and other symptoms from this, including myself (and I’m not Celiac). Thanks. Bob's Red Mill All Purpose Baking Flour Gluten Free All-Purpose Baking Flour is a blend of garbanzo bean flour, potato starch, whole grain white sorghum flour, tapioca flour and fava bean flour. God heavens, you are amazing. I don’t subscribe to your blog so that you can lie to me or convince me to try different products. I was diagnosed with Celiac a few months ago after feeling horrible for 20 years and doctors never knowing what was wrong. I just read GD’s recent FB post about the article wherein it states that Bob’s Red Mill now uses (in addition to certified oats) oats that are mechanically separated, presumably a la General Mills for their Cheerios, for some of their oat products that they market as GF. Whatever contaminated the singled out batch…how did it happen, and will this precipitate a flurry of “random” batch testing? I found your site today and I have literally spent the whole day reading it. Gluten Free All Purpose Baking Flour, 22 oz. But even putting that aside, it still sounds like a useful test for anyone who is consuming only ostensibly GF foodstuffs (such as the classic GF grains of quinoa, amaranth, buckwheat, etc — and what is COFFEE doing on that list? 3 Reviews. What’s a Celiac to do? Yes my stroke and 6 TIA were directly caused by the food I eat. Copyright © Holland & Barrett Retail Limited, 2020. You are like tonic to the gut, bubbling with humorous dialogue to cure the sad soul of any celiac needing attention. This is scary. Thanks for your great blog and articles and just everything you do. I have no idea whether arrowroot has ever been tested by the group, but it’s something I’ve asked my chiropractor because, as I mentioned, I have had stomachaches from eating it. A list of FDA Consumer Complaint Coordinators is posted at FDA’s website: Get in-store pricing, sales and product info – plus filters for dietary preferences. I’m not sure. Gluten Dude and many commenters on this blog have said that even after going GF they still had GI issues, and it wasn’t until they cut out processed food altogether that they felt better. Xanthan gum? But as I was meticulously researching the best prices, for the flours and starches I could get away with purchasing from someplace other than Authentic, Bob’s was always the best price. Forget it. 32ppm to be exact. Kinnikinnick Products are produced in dedicated Gluten/Wheat/Nut/Dairy free facilities that use Soy and Eggs.”, As you don’t know anything else about us, please don’t assume you do. It’s just the thing for those sensitive to gluten. People seem bent on destroying people lately. Thanks for this info GD. Your advice was a lifeline in the early days of my celiac diagnosis in 2014 (after ~20 years of suffering undiagnosed). Thanks Dude! please read about it.. That was pretty harsh ;). Our Gluten Free Facility is completely separate from our Conventional Facility. Although I no longer eat anything made using their flours or mixes, I do use them to bake for my non Celiac, but GF, kids. I’ve always been skeptical. I have the perspective as a person that runs a good business. So you may be on a bit of shaky ground already and this could really be a tipping point for you. I guess I can already say good f**king luck. I swear to God people have been fooled into thinking they need to feel ecstatic every second of the day or else they’re labeled ‘anxious/depressed’. Sorry. My life is better for your efforts. OMG! $8.00 for 24 oz. The Celiac Landscape is Getting Treacherous…and It’s Our Own Fault. There is a part of me that wants to know. Can’t trust anyone, no matter what their record and claims. Do I want a chocolate chip cookie? Sorghum doesn’t contain gluten either. We rushed to check the bags I have in the cabinet, Thankfully it was not of the same code! Thank you for always giving us information, sharing your experiences, and generally helping us all feel that we aren’t crazy!!! Registered in England: company no. So much wrong there, if level III means something that is not likely to cause medical harm. Shout out of thanks to Kinnikinnick for their disclosures and efforts! This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. I e-mailed BRM and asked if their glutlen-free products were in a dedicated facility and why do they not test at the lowest level possible. A couple slices of GF bread tested to (let’s say rounded to) 20ppm clocks in at roughly 1 mg of gluten; 10/day being safe according to our leading experts. When the Canadian Food Inspection Agency reported its findings, Bob’s Red Mill was very surprised and immediately had samples from the same lot tested both internally and by an accredited 3rd party laboratory. Cassidy Stockton’s reply to GD stated that the product in question tested “well below” 20ppm. What is surprising is if you say it is a GF facility then you expect the PPM to be 0 or at least less then 5. The blood test that would show this is done by Cyrex Laboratories in the US and is called Array 4. Is Omission Beer Really “Risk-Free” for Celiacs?? There is a pizza place in town that has gluten-free, as well as regular, pizzas. (I found this page looking for info on the difference between “sweet white” sorghum, and “sorghum”.). I went off my diet August 15, 2014 and on December 22 I had another TIA. This time I think you are being too harsh. Best Overall: Bob’s Red Mill Gluten Free 1-to-1 Baking Flour. Sorry, but I cannot jump on the “blame wagon” because I know there is enough room for error when testing samples. Thank you. It was such a relief to hear other voices and experiences from people I could relate to. The recall was dated September 6, but the CFIA didn’t notify allergy alert list subscribers or tweet the recall until September 12. There two I can name off the top of my head is Jay Robb protein powders and Heartland Brand “GF” Pasta.. I’ve been using Bob’s Red Mill flour like crazy. This particular lot was confined to Canada. On to the next…. Any time you buy a product at the store that is claimed to be “nut free”, “dairy free”, “gluten free”, etc. While not all people with gluten sensitivities will also be sensitive to all of these foods, they should be highlighted as high risk for stimulating the immune system. Will This Gluten-Detector Become a Celiac’s Best Friend? I can no longer take chances. I test regularly in order to provide another layer of protection. I contacted Authentic Foods via email through their contact form to find out what their ppm testing is and I received a phone call from the owner within an hour. Your criticism of Bob’s gluten free flour product is the article I read and I am wondering if the Canadian food agency is using the same test method as Bob’s Red Mill, or how clean is the food agency methods in performing the test. But never mind, the end product is at this point not something that is going to be objectively safe. The bran and germ have been removed, leaving only the unbleached, unbromated endosperm milled into this all-purpose flour. Ate BRM pancakes, had an obvious reaction. I'm glad to meet a sane individual in the same boat as me. Get in-store pricing, sales and product info – plus filters for dietary preferences. I have cut and pasted a few paragraphs from the above article: “They did not find cross-reactivity with all of these foods (as is implied by the Cyrex Labs gluten cross-reactivity blood test, a.k.a. Ingredients. I’m getting rid of all Bob’s products from my house. Medium Grind Cornmeal, 24 oz. I just read your comment regarding the Bob’s Red Mill recall. that can certify companies but having one that could make a Celiac Safe certification that has much tougher requirements than GF labeling might be a great idea for some of you business savvy folks. What do I think? 2758955. No trust from me whatsoever. Although it should be there is still a risk involved. I just posted on your fb page yesterday, desperate to figure out why my son’s lab test came back over twice the recommended range. Rather disappointing. How is exactly is GD being mean by asking a company to make sure their products are safe for Celiacs. Please stop posting here until you get a clue. I didn’t meet Bob himself because his schedule was too busy that day and I had no appointment. For example, on the Cyrex blood tests we did on my boys, they both reacted to oats, dairy products, and eggs. Bob's Red Mill Gluten Free 1-to-1 Baking Flour is the perfect solution for your gluten free diet! Doesn’t matter. And that’s not saying the true damage that had been done internally. The lady who gave me a tour Christie Coykendall was very professional and was bale to answer my questions. You just can’t look at any other possibility for feeling ill. It’s always gluten. I understand your getting upset cause you did not hear about it. somewhere down the line things are bound to go wrong. THANK YOU! I simply believe she’s reacting to BRM Arrowroot Powder. Most often, the delay is in clarifying details needed for the posting. I’ve been gluten free for over a year and your blog was the first one that made me feel normal for a celiac. Thank you for your efforts in our community. However, may I just throw one thing out there to consider? This blog just stopped me from going over the edge. Help!! If it were true what they say, we wouldn’t be here discussing this. You are aaawesome!!! We have all been through the emotional roller coaster. I tried that several months ago, and reacted badly to it. This means, for some people, the body views tapioca as looking similar enough to gluten that it creates antibodies against it as well. Let’s call it a draw. I hope you had a nice summer. This all-purpose (AP) flour is made from the highest quality North American wheat and features a wholesome flavor that's sure to make your breads and pastries stand out. Bob's Red Mill All Purpose Baking Flour Gluten Free All-Purpose Baking Flour is a blend of garbanzo bean flour, potato starch, whole grain white sorghum flour, tapioca flour and fava bean flour. I am not in your region or I would stop by your bakery but since diagnosis I still have not been able to bring myself to eat out. Thank you - you beautiful soul. It’s just the thing for those sensitive to gluten. It all smacks of a company backpedaling fast trying to get around a serious problem. All the ingredients in our GF Biscuit and Baking Mix are inherently gluten free and the mix is created in our gluten free facility. If the information from Canada are true -than I will be very upset. Do you have a link for that? They wouldn’t!!!!!!!. I didn’t want to believe it, but it was the only potential contaminant in the meal. Your website and the Gluten Dude community you have brought together is so POSITIVE and crucial for my health and happiness and knowledge and celiac confidence! I look forward to hearing the real voices of the folks who comment here. Also, current research is discovering that Celiacs and those with Non-Celiac Gluten Sensitivity (which both of my boys have and I likely have as well, though I have not been tested) are not just sensitive to gluten—they may be reacting to other grains and foods as well. While I agree with most of what you said, I feel that I should explain the basics of gluten testing. Business good? I hope I’m wrong. Before discovering you and your amazing followers I honestly thought I was just nuts. Mama … it’s also possible that your daughter is reacting directly to the arrowroot powder. Tried it again weeks later “just in case”, had the exact same reaction…lesson learned. Then they stupidly think going ‘gluten free’ is what’s making them healthier when it’s simply the lack of junk food. This isn’t to bash everyone with a uniform stick – some may be genuinely trying and mean well. I am writing to you because I am concerned. If some of you also have a corn allergy that could be an additional source of reaction. Frustrating how when I tell doctors they say they’ve never heard of such things. Just the fact that she claims she was glutened from driving past a wheat field at harvest time should give you a big clue that she is out in left field and does not know what she is talking about. But it seems to me more and more within the Celiac community, people don’t want to address that. 4.2 out of 5 stars 90. I’m sorry, maybe I’m too black and white when it comes to this matter and my health and others as well. I hope his company will step up and take the lead by reducing the gluten content lower as you say. For the past week, my whole system has been royally messed-up – alarmingly so. Those with Non-Celiac Gluten Sensitivity, however, are still doing damage in their body by eating gluten (and other cross-reactive foods), but it can be a “silent killer.”. Why did Dakota Prairie go under? Here is his response. well this is very unsettling news. If they can offer the consumer this level of confidence, this level of transparency, then the bar will be raised mightily. For the first time in 14 years I found a place where I feel “normal”. But if each time they did there test, and they kept records of those test too, it tested well below the 20ppm. Yet, a recall for 32 ppm is deemed by the government to be “lower risk” and “not likely to cause any adverse health consequences”????? This is one good reason to turn the whole 30 into the whole 365 (with wine and spirits of course). Gluten Free and Celiac Safe!? If they test ‘hot’ (which is very unlikely) they are rejected. This could very well be because of their sensitivity level to gluten as opposed to BRM products. Aside from this incident I feel like they are one of the “good guys” — they are forthright, for example, on their GF oats packaging that some celiacs are sensitive to even the purest of oats and accordingly advise caution — and I will be interested to see their response. However, I haven’t spent a lot of time on this site and might have missed some unwritten rules that the “regular” posters have sort-of established. I didn’t suspect the source for a long time because of Bob’s reputation, but soon there was no denying it. I don’t buy it, Bob’s Red Mill. How about you change your production methods so there is no chance in hell that your products can come anywhere near the 20ppm? Gluten Free All Purpose Baking Flour, 22 oz. Clearly the oats look much different than the last batch and made him quite sick. ... Bob's Red Mill Gluten Free All-Purpose Baking Flour. 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