© 2021 ArenaNet, LLC. (Borderlands 2 Drunk). It's considered one of the worst picks in the PvE endgame at the moment. Death Shroud depletes life force and ends when it … Notes []. DeadlySynz.3471 Scourge is good for condi builds, reaper is good for power builds. @DHung.5263 said: I like core builds too specially for thief and ranger, althow I still dont have a rang lv 80 but i intend to have one and if I do probably will be core cause I dont like druid and Bsoul is melee so I intend to have a RANGED character. Well we can see that 98% preffer reaper over scourge hehe. Reaper is best focused with power weapons, greatsword, axe, warhorn, or even daggers if you want. like power reaper uses berserker.... how about scourge? Scourge in WvW is actually very strong in organized group play, but suffers in roaming. Well because I dont have time to farm for 600+ HP for both elite spec? This video is unavailable. I'll run GS and if/when things get dicey, go shroud and wipe the area. Almost every other profession ramps its damage up to the burst peek or sustain peek faster than necro does. Because they also had lots of support skills they also needed to keep an eye on allied health. If it's for open world in general: I would go for Reaper. Scourge is a mid line condition spec with potent dps output that requires appropriate timing and management of resources. Swap to gs 3542 auto attack gs 2 is very very strong gs3 applies a ton of vuln and does more dmg to targets above 50% gs does more dmg to targets below 50%. Archived. I play Power versions of both in PvE. Plus also far more survivable with almost no ramp up time compared to Scourge. Reaper will be easier to get running because its a bit more basic imo and it will prob be easier to learn different mechanics of different parts of the game while playing it. If I'm soloing, or in a zerg, I'll just stay as Reaper, and I appreciate other Scourges throwing up barriers and might, etc., if they choose to do so. Scourge vs Weaver [Question] Hi, I'm currently jumping into Guild Wars 2 for the first time. I am not what you'd call an expert player. Scourge vs Spellbreaker was a big success so I’m back with a part 2, this time using Power Reaper! This is however comparing Power reaper to Condi Scourge. A condition DPS and utility build for Scourge. The Reaper being mellee class u had should do at least some effort positioning to hit mobs... so basically is: Also in it's current state, range is priority since pushing is near suicide with winds and other aoe, giving the advantage to scourge. Try it out. Got tired of reading some posts above as they dont rly say anything...good..reaper gs axe/wh is the weapon set to use. 1 2 > Go. I have one of each...I find Scourge a blast to play but it shines as others have said in group conflicts like meta events and wvw. I prefer the higher engagement and challenge that glassy casters provide me which is why I tend to favor a more glassy necromancer design in other games. I'm currently often running a marshals build though, because it offers up to 10k DPS while doing almost the same value of barriers that magi does. Reaper is a self-sufficient AoE DPS class that gets better the less experienced its group is. That's a matter of opinion on fun. Power Scourge brings extremely high power damage with good spikes and sustained damage potential, along with the usual Scourge boon corrupts. Whereas the Core only for several other especs is still useful. Scourge is best focused for weapons with condi and utility like scepter, torch, possibly even staff etc. Scourge is best focused for weapons with condi and utility like scepter, torch, possibly even staff etc. Reaper flows so well between GS and shouts and shroud, and is so darn tough, that I can just relax and enjoy spinning to win. If you can't bear monotonous playstyle (shades shades shades), find loss of decimate defenses unbearable, and hate the idea or running around with a dagger instead of greatsword, then this spec is not for you. Condi scourge has a few weaknesses and is more difficult to use, however its kill speed is only slightly slower against low number mobs. i think one of the issue i have is the weapon, i tend to stick on axe/warhorn too much regardless of the mode i play... i have a greatsword but i rarely switch to it ... just wondering am i doing it entirely wrong? Scourge can be used as a workround but this is hardly an argument as the game is pretty easy in general. We had to remove it from the list because we got too drunk. Mesmer level 80 no chrono yet:Klanga voosh. Both are good, though, and I like playing either. First of all it's boring. Scourge takes far too much effort to play compared to Reaper. As he has no standard shroud, only barriers, any healing/leeching he gets is not blocked by shroud. What sleep is here? Before the removal of the celestial amulet or before they … On scourge, I use axe / torch with either scepter / focus, scepter / dagger or staff as needed. Their archetype uses both melee and range. as in having to put down shades constantly, not the condition damage. Some people use staff instead of greatsword but losing nightfall is a huge loss imo. The event seems to appear every 2 hours, on the hour. Like I said arenanet should think 10x before nerfing classes for PVE, if they nerf PVP is understandable but PVE... and I hope they can fix the chatting for tempest-elem asap cause i stopped playing mine and I am seriously thinking making a necro as my main because again like I said I dont want to turn off the chatting because I like it. Because of this the question of which is better or more fun, that depends on the perspective of the user. I do out DPS most pugs and most my guild. It should be noted that most of the healing is in the form of barrier, which isn't reduced by Agony (in fractals) and makes it easier to maintain Superior Rune of the Scholar uptime. Which this especially includes reaper. I'm currently looking to play a similar class in GW2. Scourges normal DPS/utility build is viper. Reaper allows this class to take on a more warrior feel to the gameplay. It far exceeds Reaper when in group content. In a controlled setting I hit between 20-24k last I checked. Sign In With Your GW2 Account; Register; en fr es de Index; Discussions; Dev Tracker; Best Of... Home › PVP. It just sucked but now its coming into light for a lot of people! It's really an attitude thing in once sense. The awesome freedom of choosing gear stats that reaper enjoys due to huge crit chance boosts in traits is gone here. #GUILDWARS2 #NECROMANCER #WVW Hi guys, here is a new video with necro, I hope you like it: D hola chicos aca les dejo un nuevo video con necro , espero les guste :D Music Scandroid - … Hey Moxxi you should be bright orange, because this body... is LEGENDARY!''. All trademarks and copyrights on this site are owned by their respective owners. Condi reaper vs scourge [Question] Close. Few dare to walk into scourge's aoe and take a prolonged fight with him in it. However, its effectiveness falls off in o… As a fan of the power builds reaper is the best option, cause i hate taking long to kill enemies. 19:06. This makes it an excellent healer in a fractal group that already ha… It also brings heavy CC and Vulnerability similar to Holosmith - Power DPS. Condi scourge scepter/torch. I'm still not sure if staff or scepter is go to since meteor and storm sigil got nerfed, but I'm still kinda leaning that staff is probably since you got lava font which is up fairly often does a bit of damage. Causing it's the only one heavily relying on bleeding while the others all do conditions, that hit harder, I run with staff and scepter/torch and you're right that both weapons have a lot of bleeding. Fear from the Shade (and me as well) does about 3000 damage between Fear's traited damage and Torment. Both can excel, but the more simplistic straightforward nature of Reaper lends its-self to open world PvE. "Solo-ing" champions: Both, but I'd prefer Scourge with a hybrid setup (condi and healing) a. Map meta events: Both, but imo hybrid Scourge is more helpful to the squad, with Epidemic, powerful ressing, barriers, etc. Trivia []. My guild added “Take a shot when you see a Necro in Chaos Gloves and Reaper Hood” to our Guild Wars 2 drinking game. Scourge is mainly a utility class and excels in encounters where it can play to its strengths, namely Epidemic and defensive support. They could be quite overwhelming to get into. 6. It wasn't just a passive glance at enemy placement or health either. On reaper, I use axe / warhorn with either a GS or Staff for open world, depending on the situation. The fun factor for me is based on how much personal engagement I must put into each of them. Now that we have build templates why not have both? I can see Lucian's comment: I used to love/hate Shaman in WoW because of totem-plopping. -Scourge if u are too lazy and dont bother with action "feel", Marjory takes her sister's greatsword after Belinda's death at Fort Salma.In the Ghosts of Fort Salma mission, Belinda's spirit fuses itself with the sword, vowing to protect Marjory. . Posted by u/[deleted] 1 year ago. SCOURGE Vs. SPELLBREAKER: https: ... GW2 Path of Fire | Power Reaper VS. SpellBreaker - 1v1's/Duels - Duration: 19:06. Scourge takes too much time to kill mobs. To get Pillaged Offering and Death-in-a-Bag you must be using a Necromancer when participating in the event and killing ghosts respectively. The horror. Enjoy those juicy shroud crits, I mostly play reaper myself and prefer it in almost all situations be it open world, strikes, fractals, or raids. My WvW necro has a build for scourge zerg play and one reaper for small sided fights. They already have a ranged attack focus, core. @otto.5684 said: Whilst Power Reaper lacks single-target damage in most situations, its strengths make it useful for encounters with split phases and multiple adds. I dusted off my Condi reaper who I got in full viper exotics before I took a break. Camping axe is extremely inefficient. This build provides high sustained healing and extreme resurrecting ability. I've played both for thousands of hours and Scourge's Kill time is comparable. @Nimon.7840 said: MetaBattle content is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Axe 2 and wh5 is only thing useful. In PvP modes you're doing it right, most of the times it's better to stay on axe, GS is more a utility/finisher weapon in my opinion. Reaper is best focused with power weapons, greatsword, axe, warhorn, or even daggers if you want. And shades aren't a fascinating concept at least when compared to reaper shroud when you turn into a kitten avatar of death and reap your enemies yourself! A detailed guide on the Power Reaper in Guild Wars 2. (I have a Sigil of Smoldering on my Torch for 20% duration, and have almost 50% increased duration for Fire.). Reaper is my favourite for PvE, Raids, Strike Missions and T4s, and with the latest nerfs to Scourge, I changed my Scourge necro to core necro for WvW, which is FAR tankier and better at fights of attrition than Scourge. I don't believe it is a viable option and is way to clunky. btw guys whats the best and most common build for scourge? In PvP camping GS does way more damage than using axe autoattacks. It's good to cleave downs and sometimes fun to go rampage in enemy backline, but if you want to contribute more for the zerg, play scourge. Appreciate the help. '' Rangers is not an archer alone. Necro and it's elites are meta for random PUGs. Scourge is more in line with what the necromancer used to do in gw1. In any case, you'll do fine with either spec; Reaper will be better at Power damage builds, and as a result slightlybetter in PvE open world and story missions. Ramp-up time is just a consequence of playing a Conditions-oriented build, which isn't unique to Scourge. There is nothing to enchance your crit chance like reaper's decimate defenses and scourges shroud has a 6s fixed uptime. There's also healscourge that uses magi (feel free to add boonduration for fractals, as without it's impossible to keep up 25might Uhhhh I got a lotta clips so here, have another video :p Nah but seriously this is my first GvG ever so I kinda suck (I think??) I'm using power reaper and condi scourge. BadMed.3846 Member September 12, 2018 @Erzian.5218 said: @BadMed.3846 said: nerfing it back to where it would be a decent enough spec to play. (And for "Shroud Skill 1" traits, which a Scourge does by deploying the shade.) Level 80 Ranger with druid spec Jedkhan. @LucianDK.8615 said: My PvE necro has a scourge build for fractals and a reaper build for open world. I stop playing my supposely tempest elem not cuz of any nerf but because of the annoying chating when charging the prof skills(F1-F2 ETC), I dont want to turn off the chating cuz i like it but really spamming chating EVERYTIME on mount/dismount, no way. I prefer scourge personally for the constant access to extra skills without a form switch and the more "mage" style to the pure bruiser that is reaper. Reapers are often associated with the human god Grenth, most notably the Seven Reapers. I would probably kick players out of my squad that tell me they play Scourge because they die too much on Reaper since Reaper is already incredibly tanky in PvE. Reaper is good enough for most game modes and support-Scourge is ok in group/squad content but neither are really meta for specific content types anymore. It's a different mentality you need to be in when playing the scourge. Very. I dont think shroud underpower specially the skills 4 and 5. And Scourge is less "selfish". If I'm in a small group, I'll play Scourge, unless I'm with another one, then if they decide to stay Scourge, I'll switch over to Reaper. Reaper is much better in open world PvE. And as I am a fan of power builds reaper is the best option . As for ease of use, this is completely false. Since I mouse-move, I can't scatter three shades with any degree of accuracy, so I use one big one and snap-to-target to get it placed. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Played both. Reaper isn't as far as effective in zergs. But raids don't work like that. What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. While Scourge is not normally considered a strong DPS class, its defensive support makes it great for carrying weaker groups. Super excited for all the mount stuff and the new lands to explore. Reaper's niche is that it has a huge health pool for a DPS class, and sustains very high personal Quickness, Might, and critical chance. In addition, it can specialize to provide up to 25 Mightto its subgroup, or deal respectable DPS if using the Marshal/Shaman gear variant. Scourge will quickly make you want to stab something from having to constantly plop down your shades before you can start having fun being killy. I dunno if its me, but damage feels kinda pathetic in fire for ele. Thanks guys...I’m currently using axe/horn most of the time and have actually abandoned the gsword as I’m not comfortable going melee (besides reaper shroud), and I find having a staff actually helps better (spvp and fracs). Of course the key is damage over what time, and some of the times are pretty long. thank you, its more for open world and things like that the pvp, competitive part i rather to leave for warrior and thief who are the king of pvp xD. But I agree with Lily that it's not a big deal. While not the highest DPS build, this build provides decent sustained DPS and ridiculously strong AoE cleave with Epidemic. Everything on scepter warhorn has 15+ seconds. Well we can see that 98% preffer reaper over scourge hehe. Plus, if there are enough enemies, seeing a screen fill up with damage points like a cluster bomb while I'm out of the mix brings a smile to my face. For now I stick with reaper even why i went to the shroud build and I like to jump in middle of group of mobs and kill everything hehe xD. It also provides strong incidental support for its subgroup by generating Might, cleansing conditions, and overhealing allies with barriers. Reaper is power which is better in open world/Dungeons/Fractals (you kill things too fast for condi) and reaper is the best for self might/vulne/quick, making it perfect for solo/non opti pug groups Scourge is a really good spec to starting raid (easy to play, Epidemic help a lot in many fight, barrier is always good) level 1 is it ok to use axe/horn and a staff on a power reaper for frac/spvp? You don't need to like scourge. With reaper my engagement is lower as the options I have are much more linear with my approach. I know it’s a healer spec but that’s all... 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